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There are all kinds of under-the-table bonuses paid to fighters, from the top of the card all the way to the bottom. I have personally, with my own two eyes, seen a fighter who made $8,000 to show and $8,000 to win be handed a check for $45,000 after his fight ended because they were so happy with the excitement of his bout. This is not a random occurence - it happens multiple times per event, every event.
a esto te refieres cuando dices lo de fascismo puro y duro???"Things you focus on will grow bigger, so focus on positivity" Marloes Coenen
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No lo pillo, ahí no veo más que consejos para una buena práctica periodística mayormente, salvando cosas como lo de no hablar de la madre de Dana y tal.
No hables de cuestiones financieras si no tienes datos verificables -y por lo visto no los tienen-, no mezcles información y opinión, no vayas a las ruedas de prensa de un evento a hacer preguntas polémicas que no tienen que ver con ese evento, no te dejes manejar por managers o luchadores y contrasta tu información con otras fuentes, no creas que pasas por debajo del radar por ser una web pequeña porque Zuffa tiene un equipo de prensa que presta atención a todo lo que se escribe sobre ellos... en fin ¿esto es tan raro que lo aconseje un periodista a otro?
¿Hace cuánto Zuffa no veta a un medio en sus eventos por cierto? (Algo que, por otra parte, han hecho clubes de fútbol aquí en España en alguna ocasión, sin irnos tan lejos).
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Originalmente escrito por Merrill el Merodeador Ver mensajeThere are all kinds of under-the-table bonuses paid to fighters, from the top of the card all the way to the bottom. I have personally, with my own two eyes, seen a fighter who made $8,000 to show and $8,000 to win be handed a check for $45,000 after his fight ended because they were so happy with the excitement of his bout. This is not a random occurence - it happens multiple times per event, every event.
And finally, always remember this: you would be SHOCKED to learn how much they pay attention to when it comes to MMA media. Their corporate and PR teams love Bleacher Report, and they read everything. You may think you're flying under the radar, but you aren't. They are all paying attentionÚltima edición por las torres de kyoku; 09-10-2013, 02:10 PM.
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...y ¡acuden las fieras! Je je
Esa carta me ha recordado perfectamente a cualquier carta "consejera y amigable" de las que puede redactar Tony el Gordo.Hay trozos que realmente merecen la pena.
- And finally, always remember this: you would be SHOCKED to learn how much they pay attention to when it comes to MMA media.
(ahí remarcando el shocked juajua, faltaba un enlace a una página de tasers)
You're always being watched. I don't say this to scare you. I say it to let you know that you're not an unknown commodity, and that people are paying attention. They read what you write.
Te estamos vigilando en todo momento NO LO DIGO PARA ASUSTARTE, pero te estamos vigilando tío.
Mistakes you make now, when you think you're under the radar, could end up burning you down the line.
A mí un Fertitta (o al caso uno de los esbirros pagados por él) me manda esta carta, y estoy lo menos un año escondido con puertas y ventanas tapiadas.Última edición por Durán Durán; 09-10-2013, 06:18 PM.
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No hables de cuestiones financieras si no tienes datos verificables -y por lo visto no los tienen-- Don't delve too deep into Zuffa financials. This goes for fighter pay, revenue, money donated to political campaigns. This is Dana's biggest pet peeve. Because they are a private company, it's almost impossible to verify actual financial numbers for any of these subjects. Even if you have two good sources verifying your information, there are still a lot of things they do behind the scenes that makes it a really tough subject to get right.
Nothing pisses Dana off more than people talking about Zuffa's financials and getting everything wrong. There is literally no way to grasp everything they do with their money, so there's no point in trying to speculate.
¿A tí esto te parece bien?
There are all kinds of under-the-table bonuses paid to fighters, from the top of the card all the way to the bottom. I have personally, with my own two eyes, seen a fighter who made $8,000 to show and $8,000 to win be handed a check for $45,000 after his fight ended because they were so happy with the excitement of his bout. This is not a random occurence - it happens multiple times per event, every event.
a esto te refieres cuando dices lo de fascismo puro y duro???
no mezcles información y opinión,
no te dejes manejar por managers o luchadores y contrasta tu información con otras fuentes
- Don't report something a manager tells you unless you have verified it with someone who is not a manager. Managers will often use you to get their message out.
Loretta Hunt was banned from the UFC because she reported a story that was fed to her by Ken Pavia, who was actually feeding her false information because he was upset with Zuffa over the amount of backstage passes he was receiving for shows. Managers have tried to feed me information in the past that turned out to be false.
Don't be a mouthpiece and don't let them use you to send a message, because you'll be the one who gets burned.
- Don't be a mouthpiece for a fighter, either. They'll use you in the same way managers do when trying to send a message to the UFC.
no vayas a las ruedas de prensa de un evento a hacer preguntas polémicas que no tienen que ver con ese evento- Don't be negative just to be negative or edgy. Dana doesn't mind being asked tough questions, but consider the circumstance when you're doing it. If you're at a press conference or a conference call for a UFC event, keep your questions related to that event.
no creas que pasas por debajo del radar por ser una web pequeña porque Zuffa tiene un equipo de prensa que presta atención a todo lo que se escribe sobre ellos... en fin ¿esto es tan raro que lo aconseje un periodista a otro?
¿Hace cuánto Zuffa no veta a un medio en sus eventos por cierto? (Algo que, por otra parte, han hecho clubes de fútbol aquí en España en alguna ocasión, sin irnos tan lejos).
Alguien podria explicar de que va todo esto? O es como lo de que semipesados es un trampolin?
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Originalmente escrito por teseo Ver mensajePankra tú sabes que la carta no está escrita por nadie de Zuffa sino por uno de los redactores jefe de Bleacher Report al resto de redactores de la web ¿verdad?
Lo que de antemano está claro es que si Zuffa manda una carta de esas nunca lo va a hacer directamente, sino a través de alguien (hacia el propio director de una página, y este ya luego a sus empleados, otra cosa es que estos luego "la caguen"), para que no se te pueda vincular directamente, lo contrario sería de tontos, al igual que las "amenazas" explicitas y demás, en una carta de este tipo, ha de reinar la ambiguedad.
EDITADO:
En el anterior mensaje me confundía, la página vetada de la que saco el documento, no es bleacherreport, sino Deadspin
A tipster passes along the following email sent around to Bleacher Report's MMA writers last year. It was written by Jeremy Botter, a lead MMA writer for B/R who also covers the fights for the Houston Chronicle. There is some good advice here (don't publish random bullshit!) and some weird advice here (don't ask Dana…
In fairness to B/R, the site actually runs a lot of really good MMA coverage. This thorough analysis of a UFC contract, for instance—"I think it's potentially a violation of the 13th Amendment, the prohibition against slavery or involuntary servitude," said a law professor they consulted—is certainly worth a read even if you couldn't care less about the sport. I asked Botter about the note. He replied:
Yes, I can confirm that I wrote that email.
It wasn't an "internal memo," unless that term has taken on new significance that I am unaware of. I realize the little disclaimer at the top makes it seem official, but it wasn't.
It was something my editor and I were discussing that he decided to share with the team. It was never official policy or anything of that nature.
A lot of it just seemed like common sense when dealing with sports coverage/journalism of any type, not just the UFC. But obviously this was targeted more at them because, well, that's what I do.
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De bleacher report ahora me acuerdo y había un artículo con un top nosecuanto de los numeritos de Dana, lo encontré cuando te pregunté por quien era el tipo de un video que puse (Bloodstain Lane, ya no se me olvida xD) .El artículo de Bleacherreport sobre los cabreos e insultos de Dana, era justificación tras justificación y mamada tras mamada al presidente de la compañía.Ese es todo mi contacto con la página (y algún ranking de boxeo con fotos), y aún así no me extraña nada un portavoz de la cartita venga a través de ese nido Zuffista.
Lo encontré!:
As is to be expected in a sport where two men literally fight each other, mixed martial arts has its fair share of colorful personalities...
Bloodsataine Lane se pronunncia sobre la página
Última edición por Durán Durán; 09-10-2013, 06:13 PM.
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Originalmente escrito por Durán Durán Ver mensaje
Además de eso tiene también gente pagada para defender a Zuffa en foros y echar mierda sobre todo lo NO-Zuffa, especialemente Bellator o patrocinadores con los que no acabaron bien.Esto se descubrió hace tiempo pero no me cabe duda de que lo siguen haciendo...
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